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 5/7/2007 12:15:30 PM
jason
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New Traxster Robot Motors
 Modified By jason  on 5/29/2007 6:28:46 PM)
I posted this in the Robot Kit forum, but though it would be useful here also...

We just received a new shipment of motors in for our Traxster robot kits, and I wanted to put a few notes on the forum about them:

They are much higher quality than the previous motors, are much more quiet (due to more precise gearing), and have built in quadrature encoders on them.

The specs are:

  • 7.2 Volts
  • Gear Reduction: 1:52
  • Stall Torque: 100 oz-in
  • Max Speed: 160 rpm
  • Quadrature Encoders built in with 12 pulses per revolution resolution (This means 624 pulses per wheel revolution)
  • 12" motor wire lengths
  • 12" encoder wire lengths with plugs (which can plug directly into the Serializer)

NOTE: For those customers who are using a CMUcam2/2+ Pan/Tilt turret or an IR Panner with their Traxster, you will have to remove the black plastic encoder cover for the motors to fit.

On another note, I measured the current draw between the old motors and the new ones, and found some interesting results.  The old motors were very noisy, and top speed varied between the motors (due to frictional differences - imposed by manufacturing).  The new motors are very quiet, precise, and top speed seems very consistent.  So, once I measured the current draw between the two (almost identical) motors, the old motor were pulling about 750 mA at no-load top speed, while the new motors pulled around 300mA no-load top speed.   Wow!

Traxsters will now come with the quadrature wheel encoders on the motors, so there won't be any need to purchase the optical encoder modules for the Traxster going forward.  We will continue supply the optical encoder modules, however.

The PID values will change for the Traxster (since the quad encoders have a higher resolution), and we will post those values in a few days.


Jason Summerour
President,
Summerour Robotics Corp
Microsoft MVP
www.roboticsconnection.com
 5/29/2007 9:59:14 PM
jason
158 posts
5th


Re: New Traxster Robot Motors
 Modified By jason  on 5/29/2007 6:26:18 PM)

Here are some pictures of the new motors, along with how they look when mounted in a Traxster.

The black wire contains four conductors, red, black, white, and green, which are 5V, Gnd, Channel A, Channel B, respectively.

HenkwellDCMotor_1.jpg

 

HenkwellDCMotorPair_1.jpg

Note how black quadrature encoder wires tuck underneath Serializer, and plug right into the quadrature encoder ports. LoL

TraxsterWithNewMotors.jpg

NOTE: The encoder wheel/sensor covers have to be (easily) removed for the motors to fit in the Traxster if you have a panning servo bolted in.  Since everything is protected by the bottom belly pan, you don't have to worry about the sensors getting damaged w/o the covers.

I finally got the new motors out on the site, by the way (took long enough, eh?). :)


Jason Summerour
President,
Summerour Robotics Corp
Microsoft MVP
www.roboticsconnection.com
 10/19/2007 9:50:34 PM
jayc
3 posts


Re: New Traxster Robot Motors
Need some help guys. I'm a mentor to the local college IEEE student branch working on a robotics project. They ordered two of these motors a couple of weeks ago and just got around to trying them. There is a physical issue with both motors where the motor lead wires are shorting to the case. Rather than fix them (or not) I'd like to know the options for getting two working motors? The students tried to call the support number but it rolled to voicemail each time. I can send a photo of the issue if you'd like. Jay
 10/20/2007 11:01:13 PM
jason
158 posts
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Re: New Traxster Robot Motors

Hey Jay,

I apologize that we weren't available Friday afternoon...We were unloading a 400 pound metal shear/brake off of the truck, and it took several hours. :)

I'll be glad to get  you two more motors out on Monday.   If you don't mind, please send us some pictures.  It's not that I don't trust you, but rather so that we can send them to the motor manufacturer, and ensure that it doesn't happen again.  I do apologize that this occurred, and we will make every effort to get the manufacturer to fix this.

Could you please provide a shipping address, and/or order number, and we can get them out to you on Monday morning.

Best Regards!


Jason Summerour
President,
Summerour Robotics Corp
Microsoft MVP
www.roboticsconnection.com
 11/4/2007 10:33:53 PM
jayc
3 posts


Re: New Traxster Robot Motors
Just wanted to post a follow up. Jason is a stand up guy and sent the replacements out post haste. I have not problem recommendig him for your needs as he will make it right if it's not. As an update, we got to testing the HBridge driver we made today with the motors. The chips are rated at 3A max and since my DC gearheads only draw about .5A I was expecting 1A from these unloaded. Well, more like 2A. Since I didn't have heat sinks, he lost a chip (I always have spares and I use sockets so not a big deal) but it might be a good idea to provide this spec on the motor page. We were feeding one with a 8-cell NiMh and running it at half speed (5V approx).

So now we are weighing our options for bigger controllers.

Thanks for the great service Jason, it's why I ordered my IR sensor from you too.

Jay
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